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MSH-4 values for messages from DOD labs

I am trying to help some of the DOD labs with reporting - they don't have a CLIA number, but a CLIP# - do you want that in MSH-4? If yes, what do I put for MSH-4.3? Or will you accept an OID?

Comments & Events

Mark Dittman
Riki,

For PA, we’ll take either but we have to have them ahead of time, as usual, and 4.3 does not matter, I’d be fine with “CLIP” or “OID”. We only rely on the 4.1 value and just carry 4.2 and 4.3 along regardless of content.

Thanks,
Mark
Nereida Corral
Andrew Horvath - CDPHE Andrew   do you have a preference?
Walter Kemper, ELR Coordinator, NC DHHS Div of Public Health
We would accept an OID, but would need to know the corresponding CLIP# because we translate OID to CLIA (within our system we would pretend that the CLIP# is a CLIA#).  All we would need to do is add the OID and CLIP# to our translation table.

If you want to put the CLIP# in MSH-4.1 and "CLIP" in MSH-4.3 that would be OK; we would just need to add "CLIP" to HL7 table HL70301.
Nancy Barrett, Epi 4/PH Informatics Specialist
Hi, Carl says we can do the same way NC wants.
Riki Merrick, Terminologist at APHL
Cool - I would prefer to send you OIDs to stick to HL7 codes in MSH-4.3 - with the CLIP# available as well - and notifying ahead of time - so that's what I will implement - thanks for the fast response!
Nancy Barrett, Epi 4/PH Informatics Specialist
OIDs are good also!
Kristy Lunquest, Maryland Department of Health
MD can do either.
Sita Smith
MA can accept OIDs in the MSH segment.
 
CLIP# is sufficient for OBX-15, which is where we pull performing facility from
 
David DiCesare
NYS does not process OIDs in MSH-4.



Thanks and Stay Safe,


David DiCesare
NYS ELR Coordinator
ECLRS Help Desk
Bureau of Surveillance and Data Systems
Local – 518-402-5943
Long Distance – 866-325-7743
David.dicesare@health.ny.gov
Riki Merrick, Terminologist at APHL
David - How does NYS want CLIP# in MSH-4, for DoD, where Clia is not an option?
Riki
David DiCesare
As long as you have ‘^CLIA’ after it we will take it and process it.



Thanks and Stay Safe,


David DiCesare
NYS ELR Coordinator
ECLRS Help Desk
Bureau of Surveillance and Data Systems
Local – 518-402-5943
Long Distance – 866-325-7743
David.dicesare@health.ny.gov
Nancy Barrett, Epi 4/PH Informatics Specialist
Hi -- the DoD birthdates are not usable? has anyone else seen this issue? Were you able to get DoD to make corrections in any of your files?
Kristy Lunquest, Maryland Department of Health
One of the files I received did have DOBs that were numbers that did not translate to dates and I am waiting for those to be resent. However, DOBs have been fine for other files.
Riki Merrick, Terminologist at APHL
I am working to make sure they use the right format when they are using the HL7 generator tool.
We found a bug and have made an update, a new version should be posted by EOD today and then I will migrate the DOd content into the new versions and send back for those sites that are working with me.

Riki
Nancy Barrett, Epi 4/PH Informatics Specialist
Hi Riki, awesome. Would they be resending all of their results?
Nancy Barrett, Epi 4/PH Informatics Specialist
Kristy -- did you get the missing DOBs? we have some of those also.